Talk:Wydmoori-Ubrekti War

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detarame12/13/2018 New Wydmoor springs back very quickly. The genesis of the Ubrekt-Wydmoor War is all the old patrician families that fled to their cousins houses in Ubrekt raise an army to take back their land and estates from the refugee squatters.

The Ubrekti-Wydmoor war lasted a long time. Initially, it went very poorly for Wydmoor, and continued to go poorly until the whole rest of the Mainland order fell apart. As the Gnomish civil war distracted the attention of the dwarves and gnomes, Collar's Crusade became more of a sectarian conflict between the human nations. After the martyrdom, starting with Celstia and/or Odessa, human states started ordaining martial clerics which opened the door for a bunch of radical splinter faiths.

So, all these wars are sort of tied up with each other, yeah? Once the Odessans and Celstians started minting non-orthodox clerics, the nations more strongly tied to the church (Flannary, Ubrekt, Alexian rump states) teamed up, leading Odessa and Wydmoor into a marriage of convenience and necessity. The Odessans got to get off the hook for all the money that got stolen and got to keep the red iron mines in exchange for Odessan support of Wydmoor's independence faction.

detarame 12/13/2018 As a function of THIS development, a general rebellion started up in Ubrekt as the Hakani underclass started to rebel against their landlords. (In Grand Strat terms, their war exhaustion got to high). The Hakani King (appointed by Alexandria Herself, it's worth noting) threw his support to the uprising. The Ubrekti nobles ended up making a peace with Wydmoor that allowed some of the families to return to their properties while recognizing many of the new claims an an expanded Wydmoor demense. The reason the Ubrekti nobles made that peace was so they could regroup and eject the Hakani king once and for all. Which they did. Once the Wydmoor-Ubrekt thing dies down, the next order of business is grinding out the Gnomish Civil War (Dwarf+Wild Gnome faction+Brights faction). By the time that's taken care of, the Odessans have pretty much forced a stalemate after the loss of not-wales. At this point the magic statue thing is ruined and no one can fix it, and the dwarves and gnomes ar do not want to enter into a brand new war on the other side of the continent, so after more fighting than probably necessary, an armistice and mutual recognition is reached. As always, there is IRL theft of the highest order going on here. In this case, it's pretty transparently the 30 Years War, where religious sectarian violence gave way to maybe the first realpolitik war. It went well for everyone.